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Mar 5, 2013 13:30:32 GMT -8
Post by klopek on Mar 5, 2013 13:30:32 GMT -8
I am trying to make some of the images from vectorart 3d machinist. I go through the 7 step process and save my project with the post processor that vectric support sent me for the oliver 1013 so it is in gee. format. When i run this file on my cnc it recognizes there is a file there. The problem is that it turns a 10"X10" project into something more like 1"X1". I did this using inches and mm. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong or point me in a direction to figure this out?? Thank you all for your time and help.
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1013
Mar 6, 2013 4:09:12 GMT -8
Post by gullyfoyle on Mar 6, 2013 4:09:12 GMT -8
I posted a reply to your other question. I linked to a discussion regarding people with the same problem using different software from the same company.
It looks as if the post processing files are screwed.
UI and name different, guts the same.
Gregg posted ones he claims work, try them.
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1013
Mar 7, 2013 9:12:32 GMT -8
Post by Greg on Mar 7, 2013 9:12:32 GMT -8
What your problem is is the machine only reads mm and you are using an inch file so it sees the code as real small, use the metric post.
Been there done that.
Also most of those post still do not output the code for the readout to work so I run it through I-picture and it fixes that too.
Greg
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1013
Mar 12, 2013 11:57:01 GMT -8
Post by gullyfoyle on Mar 12, 2013 11:57:01 GMT -8
You have set the 13 and I-Picture to inches?
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Mar 12, 2013 22:14:27 GMT -8
Post by Greg on Mar 12, 2013 22:14:27 GMT -8
Yes, your machine has options for inch or mm but it still reads the G code in mm no matter what the setting is.
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1013
Mar 13, 2013 4:53:14 GMT -8
Post by gullyfoyle on Mar 13, 2013 4:53:14 GMT -8
Could you point to where that is in a completed .gee code?
I was looking at an Aspire .pdf about editing .pp files.
The codes triggers are the same for actions.
Comparing, and I admit it was a brief comparison, a completed .gee code and the editing guide I could not find where it is limited to mm.
If anything the problem exists in the Vectric .pp files. A post on Amazon in the 1013 claims there are errors when using Artcam .pp as well.
Until Oliver actually releases a .pp file for the 1013 we have no idea where the error exists.
It makes no sense that both I-Picture and the 1013 have settings for inches but only work with mm. And if the Icarver is the same device using a different brand that increases the odds both machines and I-Picture actually read in inches.
It would be simple to take one of the txt based codes, .nc/.tap/txt, and compare it with the same image done using I-Picture. Essentially the same instructions.
Or compare a converted .gcode to the same image created with a .gee code.
Even better use one of the supplied images, then you have a standard base for the comparison.
Using the Vectric editing information and a simple .gee code it is possible to edit/create a .pp file specific to the 1013.
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1013
Mar 13, 2013 14:10:07 GMT -8
Post by Greg on Mar 13, 2013 14:10:07 GMT -8
I have always used inch on my machine and in I-picture, I use a small program to convert numbers sitting on my desktop.
Even with I-picture set to inches the output gee code is always in mm, I suspect the 15 can read inches and they have their own program for that machine.
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Mar 13, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -8
Post by Greg on Mar 13, 2013 14:11:28 GMT -8
Since I know what the problem is I always use the mm post and have no problem with it so I'm not really worried about this.
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Mar 13, 2013 16:14:59 GMT -8
Post by gullyfoyle on Mar 13, 2013 16:14:59 GMT -8
How can you tell the .gee code is in mm?
this is a sample of the Grayscale pattern .gee code
beneath the dots is the end.
Is that all in millimeters?
You have set your machine to inches, not mm, in the settings menu?
'-25.1999496 25.3999492 -44.8999102 45.0999098 -3.22 2.0 1 909
G90 G00 X0 Y0 Z0.00
S30000 M3
G00 Z2.00
X25.40 Y45.10
G01 F3200 Z-0.22
X-25.20
Y44.90
X25.40
Y44.70
X-25.20
Y44.50
X25.40
Y44.30
X-25.20
Y44.10
X25.40
Y43.90
X-25.20
Y43.70
X25.40
...
X25.40
Y-44.50
X-25.20
Y-44.70
X25.40
Y-44.90
X-25.20
Y-45.10
G00 Z2.00
M5 M30
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1013
Mar 26, 2014 5:48:12 GMT -8
Post by donnie h on Mar 26, 2014 5:48:12 GMT -8
i have a new intellicarve the first 2 carvings ive tried look slanted left to right. it seems to be running the same width everytime but sliding to the right. what can i do to resolve?
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Mar 26, 2014 7:11:59 GMT -8
Post by newbie on Mar 26, 2014 7:11:59 GMT -8
I would check the rails the router runs on. It's as if the rails are not mounted paralle, but slightly V'd so it binds on the return and loses position. I had to lossen the bottom rail on mine and retighten it as I moved the router along it. Make sure the bit is the same distance from the table at both ends, or you have to adjust the top rail too. If you have a set of calipers you can check to make sure the rails are paralle and the same distance from the table at both ends. Another way of doing a quick check is put an allen key in the end of the ball screw the router moves on (with thr power off) and move the router back and forth. It should turn easily both directions and not tend to bind on the return. On low speed the wandering was almost none existing on mine, but on normal or high it would even jump up to 3/4 of an inch on some returns. On low speed it tales 3 times as long to carve a project. Check the table also for side play in different positions as side movement can make a strait line wave.
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Mar 26, 2014 8:29:27 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 8:29:27 GMT -8
You might also consider trying a different USB stick, I have several that I use and recently had the same problem. First try the carve slanted toward the right, reset it and tried again and it slanted to the left that time. So I put the file on a different thumb drive, then no problem. The USB sticks are of varying quality control, I have one that seems fine when you insert into PC to load files but the minute I plug it in to the machine it does nothing. There is also the issue of dust getting into the USB port because of the fan pulling it in which could cause a bad connection. The one I have that I'm calling bad works fine, just not in the I-Carver.
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Mar 26, 2014 10:05:08 GMT -8
Post by donnie h on Mar 26, 2014 10:05:08 GMT -8
thanks will try tonight and report tomorrow
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Mar 26, 2014 12:26:22 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 12:26:22 GMT -8
One other piece of advice if you are getting frustrated as you begin using the machine, don't hesitate to call Oliver Machinery and ask for Dan. He can do a pretty good job of diagnosing your problem and he's seen many mistakes that happened in the past and what it took to fix it. Remember that they are on Pacific time though, so don't call before 8 their time.
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Mar 28, 2014 6:47:53 GMT -8
Post by donnie h on Mar 28, 2014 6:47:53 GMT -8
ive tried 3 usb and checked aligment of machine seems ok acts like zero of x axis shifts on nearly pass carving leans about one inch sideways for two inches down what could be my problem
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