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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2016 5:52:01 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 13:41:48 GMT -8
Very Nice Bob, I love it.
My machine is giving me fits again, it will carve 20% into a project and then I'll go out and find the machine with a code 21 and with the spindle spinning the bit but not moving along the x axis. I'll restart it (I've had a success before by resetting it on the starting point and letting it start over) but then fairly quickly get a Code 12. Going to work on it tomorrow and see if I can fix it, appears that the lubrication on the x spindle is fine, maybe I need to do the Z again. I'm sure the cold weather doesn't help much, but it's probably 45 - 50 degrees in my garage so that shouldn't be a major problem. I'm sure it's not overheating, lol.
Have a super christmas!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 4:09:54 GMT -8
Rick, I did have problems before with the X axis setup. I believe that is what led to the coupler that connects the lead screw to the stepper motor breaking. There is a plastic assembly that connects the spindle plate to the X axis lead screw, this I had identified as an "anti backlash nut" . I had attempted to explain that to Nick at Oliver once so I could order a new one and he just could not get it. What he wanted to sell me was a complete X axis assembly with the lead screw and the plastic assembly together for the whopping price of $ 330 as my only option. I did take it apart to inspect and clean it up and it was quite the nightmare to get back together correctly. The plastic assembly is actually 2 pieces which screw together, there are 4 tiny screws that hold it together and they are spring loaded so getting the tension correct was the big problem, as both halves exert pressure in opposite outward directions on the lead screw threads. When putting it back on the lead screw, you have to compress the 2 halves so that the piece will thread back onto the lead screw, and I chose to thread it on to the lead screw until it was in the middle so that any tension build up would be equal as it runs back and forth. The 4 tiny spring loaded screws are only threaded into plastic (other half) so you have to be careful not to strip the threads out. I did have to go back and adjust the tension on those screws a couple of times to get everything to run right and I did that with the piece mounted on the lead screw with a small jewelers phillips screw driver. Like I said this was about akin to doing brain surgery but I finally got it to work right. The part will eventually wear out, and I don't know if there are many options for a correct replacement. Here is an example of an anti backlash nut/coupler. The middle example is what is on our machine:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 6:47:38 GMT -8
That's too complicated for me, I'm not that good.
Error 21 is for wire disconnection, and since this happens only after the machine has run for a little while I'm wondering if a connection is loose .... after all these problems started occuring after I'd replaced the motherboard. I'm going out there in a bit to check all the connections and try again. Since I'm carving a simple Harley Davidson logo, I'm going to try and do the set up on this piece again and see if I can get it to carve right....although I'm planning on junking this piece if it doesn't work. I had this problem, then it went a way for a few projects, and now I have it again. It seems to pop up when I haven't used the machine for a week or two. Error 12 is spindle motor overheating, at that may be because the machine came to a complete stop and the motor just spun freely - then I tried to reuse it too soon.
I've been busy installing new molding in my son's house, so haven't been carving much lately.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 4:22:04 GMT -8
After Iconic and I emailed a couple of times, I decided from his suggestions that the problem I've been having with error code 21 MIGHT BE in the setup I have for the flash drive. I had installed a USB extender cord, with the hope that by eliminating the in/out of a stick into the port I might prolong the life of the port (having replaced two motherboards already when the port broke). The extender I had was about 10 inches long, I'd put it into the port, then looped it around and duct taped it to the top of the machine. Where I then put the stick into was on the far end, but the cord hung loose about 5" - no big deal in my mind. I'm thinking that the vibration of the machine may have been causing the drive to lose a signal momentarily to the HMI, causing the failure. I took the extender out of the equation, plugged the same stick/program directly into the machine, and it carved fine. Granted, that was only one project so far, but it appeared to solve the problem. I'm going to try the extender again, but only after firmly taping down the entire cord length so there is not a vibration problem. I like the idea, but hate ruined wood. This table top needs finishing, but the carving came out fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 5:15:38 GMT -8
Rick your table top looks good, glad to hear it was likely a simple problem. I have never tried the USB extender cord idea I am just overly cautious when inserting and removing the stick from the machine. It sounds like it would be a good idea to reformat USB sticks periodically to ensure there are no problems that originate from the stick being over written again and again. I am still using the original USB stick that came with the machine and also a Kingston 8gb stick, I have others but those 2 seem to fit just right. Wasted wood I hate it, but with a planer and lathe projects I can usually salvage some of any carving fails.
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Post by FatPoppy on Dec 14, 2016 5:53:24 GMT -8
Rick, Table top really looks nice. I too added a 6" USB extender on my machine. The next "cut" just stopped at about the same place two different times. I unhooked the extender and have had no more problems with that. FatPoppy
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Post by FatPoppy on Dec 14, 2016 5:57:55 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 14:17:54 GMT -8
I've quit using PNY flash drives, that is what was in my machine both times it broke. It worked fine, but I feel that the PNY ones fit too tight and that probably contributed to the problem of breaking off that small plastic piece. I use SanDisk and Cruzer now, got one of each and just swap them out each time. I agree with you, it's probably time to reformat them and start over.
I also have used a planer to salvage wood for the next project, the problem with these table tops is that at 15" diameter they are wider than the blades in my planer (13" max). The table top will slide through the opening, so I'm thinking of trying to run it through one time, then turn it 90 degrees and run it again.....do you have any experience with this, and if it works or not? The table tops are glued together spruce, about $3.50 for a 15" diameter one at Menards. I can't get too upset over adding it to the kindling pile.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 14:25:36 GMT -8
NO NO NO !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 14:37:54 GMT -8
I wanted to get the NO on there asap. The planer will likely grab the wood when put in across the grain and being those are glue ups there might be a calamity if it does ( Picture that comes to mind is flying wood ) You are right at 3.50 apiece it's not too bad, not like losing some Cherry, Walnut or Maple @ $$$$ a board foot. Even if it would work I think there would still be an area that does not get planed.
*** And as a footnote FYI kind of thing, I have made cutting boards out scrap wood periodically and once had the notion to make end grain cutting boards because they hold up better to a knife. BUT when I researched that idea (thinking of using my planer to even them out) I found out that is a terrible idea, watched you tube vids of exploding cutting boards. So don't ever try it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 17:59:09 GMT -8
Hope everyone had a great Christmas, and heres hoping the new year is a super one for everyone and the country. Special thanks to Bob for posting this design above, I was doing some work on my machine and wanted to cut a test piece....this was a perfect thing to try it on. Not thrilled with the stain/sand method, but I didn't put alot of effort into it. Overall the design came out well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 5:09:13 GMT -8
Had a great Christmas with family and friends, still have one more family get together to go for family on New Years day. The Santa carve looks pretty good, although the design probably could use some refinements, I just was messing around one day and made the design while sipping my morning coffee. Whenever you get around to going to your lumber mill, you will likely feel like it's Christmas again when you start looking around at all of that nice looking wood that will give you some better alternatives to using Oak. White Oak does not have as bold of contrast on the different grain as the Red Oak if you are still partial to using Oak. Cherry and Maple are still my favorites to use for plaques.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 10:57:43 GMT -8
I did make a few changes myself to the design, the first carve had too much of the santa as a "white out" and the bit didn't carve anything around the beard and hat. I did a slight gray at about a 28% transparency level to the Santa to drop it down in the overall carve, then whitened up just the nose to try and get that to stand out more. I was also messing around, trying to keep myself busy during that week before Christmas. I don't care much for the stain/sand finish on this, I may just go ahead and restain and try again.....was in too much of a hurry to post it to FB before Christmas. I'm slowly finishing up my daughters coffee table, she wanted a large storage area for blankets.......here's the frame, still have to put in the bottom to the storage portion and cut the table top and router the edges of that.
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