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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 14, 2013 12:57:55 GMT -8
I've noticed that some images cut a little odd in places. I've started wondering if it is the direction the image is placed. Not cut with or against the wood. If you take a rectangular image and turn it 90 degrees so it is longer on the y axis, do some images cut better rotated left and others rotated right? Or are they best as they are? Is there placement that cuts more smoothly, something that aligns better for the machine? Maybe certain angles run counter to the grain of the wood despite the wood being positioned properly. Do images with the grain running up and down carve more fluidly than those with the grain running side to side? Hair for example, does it cut better running with the grain or the grain running through it? A zebra, stripes along the grain or grain running through the animal?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 13:37:03 GMT -8
I always carve mine with the grain running the length of the table, however more and more the images I am using look much better when I rotate them 90 deg. one way or the other, I also can get a larger project that way. Say when carving something framed in an oval, instead of being restricted to the 13" width by rotating I get to go all the way to 18" for the long part of the oval. Plus I think most of the scenes and such look better with wood grain running across instead of up and down. There seems to be no noticeable difference either way in how they carve , always have some areas that need to be sanded and filed.
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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 14, 2013 14:55:01 GMT -8
The "sanded and filed " areas, do they look look tiny grooves? That's what I'm getting on certain areas. Everything before was smooth. Except for some Pine which looked furred. I can't tell if it's the image, due to my recent problems, or just how the wood cuts. I'm cutting one of the Oliver Zebras tomorrow. I noticed they were all in .bmp format. And all 8bit. I doubt the format matters. I rotated this 90 to the left, darker eye up. I'm getting some grooving in the black areas and near hair meets shoulder black, and top left, black. It isn't hair from what I can tell. Still cutting so I'm not sure how much will brush off. I cut her at .375, 10.5 by almost 14. Pretty nice. I do notice the white areas, like the nose, sit too much at the surface making the tip look flat as if snipped off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 15:52:13 GMT -8
Yep, in some areas I get those tiny grooves, very small so I just file and sand them out. I bought a couple sets of carvers mini rifler files off amazon and they also help to add some extra detail if desired. If I have areas that seem to be too sharply cut off I use my dremel detail sander to sort round them down along the edges
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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 14, 2013 17:13:10 GMT -8
I was considering Xacto knives or maybe a woodburning tool to add detail. I haven't gotten to the "this looks nice where am I going to hang it" space yet. I'm more at the "well that worked out, let me add it to the ever growing pile I need to follow up", stage. Never really been interested in wood. Never been an artistic type. We print, I don't she does, a lot of 3d stuff. Don't know what she intends to do with all the vases but I have lots of Butterflies bluetacked to the walls. This was kind of a lateral move. Where to take it hasn't quite clicked yet. I may do some cut throughs and make wooden toys. Maybe print some colored plastic people or parts for them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 18:01:43 GMT -8
I am carving mostly things for wall art or specialty, like military or organizations lots of wildlife scenes etc, I sell online and have a space in a local artisans store in " historic " downtown madison indiana. It has taken awhile to get me out there but starting to sell a bit, especially now that the weather is warming up. I have some pieces that are total rejects but I'll plane em off and make use of the board for something.
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Post by Greg on Apr 14, 2013 18:12:52 GMT -8
I almost always turn 90* and cut across the grain plusthe speed has a lot to do with it, I make a slow cut and make the laps smaller for a much better finished project.
A little trick I learned with photoVcarve was to take the default step from .100 dow to say .040 or even .020. You can make the surface look like glass but be prepared to wait 15 hours for a large cut!
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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 15, 2013 2:31:09 GMT -8
Machine is screwed. After carving files on low, with grooves, I ran one on normal. Third row ran off the wood into the clamp. Border checked fine, it was one of the supplied Oliver images.
I also noticed that on the front of the carver the y axis image is reversed from how mine operates. The machine has y+ going forward, mine is y-.
I'm on the phone to Oliver later. New machine or refund. I have problems with the next one, I'm done with Oliver products and expect a full refund.
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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 15, 2013 3:51:02 GMT -8
I am carving mostly things for wall art or specialty, like military or organizations lots of wildlife scenes etc, I sell online and have a space in a local artisans store in " historic " downtown madison indiana. It has taken awhile to get me out there but starting to sell a bit, especially now that the weather is warming up. I have some pieces that are total rejects but I'll plane em off and make use of the board for something. How do you work out the price of each? We considered doing that with the 3d printer. Lots of cool stuff. If a large print takes 10 hours, but the filament is relatively inexpensive, how would I price that? We could print a hundred small objects, like Butterflies, during that same time. I have the same problem with the carver, time consuming. I've known crafts people that make goods all winter, or hit the warm state circuit, then follow the craft shows and flea markets in the summer. They make a good living. If we were in a more hipster collegey town we could hit the small consignment and dollar shops. Sell trinkets and baubles and make the profit on volume. Some place like Portland we could make a killing. One of the Filament types is made from corn, biodegradable plastic. Hippies and Hipsters would eat those gewgaws right up. Considered the internet thing, her brother makes websites so no issue establishing a site with payment options. But that seems time consuming all the packaging and shipping and taxes. We also have a 3d scanner. I push my son to take some CAD/CAM courses in the evenings. Then he could do local work either scanning or creating prototypes or objects people commission. We are probably the only people with a hundred, hundred and fifty mile radius positioned to do that work. I also consider setting up some type of training course company and marketing it too local interests. Go to the reservation sell the idea of training kids on 3d printing or carving. Same holds true with any local youth oriented interest. Someone will either offer grant money or donations to expand it if it is popular. All this home manufacturing is the wave of the US future. It isn't like the factories in my area will be coming back.
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Post by Greg on Apr 15, 2013 10:11:23 GMT -8
if you make your total cut setting .400 on a .375 cut you should not have a flat top.
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Post by gullyfoyle on Apr 16, 2013 5:32:45 GMT -8
It depends on what the brightest Gamma is. Bright white is surface, bit doesn't touch that. Black is deepest. For anything to fall below the surface the color would have to be off white. Grayer than white. Then again my machine is screwed and could have been cutting incorrectly for quite a while. I've cut at .375 and .50, always left the corresponding white area as untouched surface. I've watched the z axis raise above the surface, and the bit skim right over.
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Post by Greg on Apr 16, 2013 20:43:52 GMT -8
The bottom setting is the total dept of cut so if you set it at .400 for a .375 cut the top of your cut will be .025 below the surface.
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Post by dick on May 1, 2013 7:52:22 GMT -8
sorry i have a question for oliverman what do i do when flash dr. or machine has 48 images. and how do i do it.
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Post by Greg on May 1, 2013 15:40:17 GMT -8
Just move them to your computer whatsup?
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