Difference between 1013 & 1015PRO

Hi All,

I am considering the purchase of a CNC carving machine and came across the Oliver 1015 Pro unit. My question is, does the Oliver 1015 Intellicarve Pro CNC have the ability to complete both router style and printer style cutting modes or is it limited line printer mode only?

Thank you in advance

The New guy

I'm getting really tired of having to reset my password every single time I try to log in to this site.


I even rest it then logged out and still could not log in with a new rest.

I have not had to reset my password since I started on here, I do have to enter it every time I login but have not had a problem with that, it is my preference that I do not choose to have sites "remember me".

The main difference between the 1013 and the 1015PRO other than the size capability is how each machine operates the XY and Z axis movements. On the 1013, the table moves for the Y-axis with a gear/rack system while the X and Z movement is done with ball screws. On the 1015PRO, the table is stationary and the gantry moves for the Y axis on a ball screw and guides; the X and Z axis are the same as the 1013. Typically, ball screws are better for accuracy than a gear/rack system. This is the main reason the 1015PRO is better suited for Gcode operations (files produced from CAD/CAM software such as ArtCam or Vectric). Although the 1013 will run Gcode files, it is thought that overtime, the gear/rack system may be compromised and so it is recommended to run image files only. (In case you do not know what I am referring to, you will notice i-Picture gives you the option to open an image file or Gcode file.)



I will now explain the difference in machine operation when running an image file or when running a Gcode file. When running an image file both machines operate in the same fashion. To offer an analogy, consider the old paper feed printers. The paper feeds incrementally as the ink stylus moves back and forth across the paper. On the 1013 the paper is the table. It moves just a little bit at a time in the Y direction as the router goes back and forth across the wood. The 1015PRO is the same way except rather than the table moving, the gantry moves in the Y direction a little at a time. However, when running a Gcode file, the carving is produced according to the toolpath designated by the CADCAM software program. In other words, the machine will not operate like a paper feed printer. It can go in the X+ direction for a period, then go in the Z+ direction, then X-, then Y+, then Y-, then Z-. This ‘toolpath’ is usually very efficient and gives good results with quicker carving times.



Now before you go out and buy one of these software programs beware that there is a huge learning curve, at least for me. This is the beauty of the intelliCarve machine. For beginners without vector design knowledge, the machine can be used to run image files with very little computer knowledge.



Read more: olivermachinery.boards.net/thread/17/1013-1015pro#ixzz3Xxaxfz2X

I tried to email you but I got that "undeliverable" message from the "evil mailer daemon". A good question would be why we have all had failures relating to the machine running off at an angle (askew) until it hits a limit switch in the X direction, therefore ruining the piece you are carving. There are multiple inquiries from members of the forum here, over a broad spectrum of time pertaining to this issue and it does not happen every time, but rather randomly. While adding a small ( 1/4" ) white border to the image for I-Picture to convert seems to help with that problem somewhat, it would seem likely that there is a fault in the I-Picture software that is causing this to occur, or is it a mechanical anomaly ? I wish that I had saved a gee code file from the times this has occurred for review to see if the problems are in the code.

What are they quoting you for delivery from Taiwan? Do they have any returned/damaged machines that they can sell you the motor out of?

I have a 1013, but was under the impression that the spindle motors were the same between the two. Looking at your motor pictures, it appears as if yours must be newer than mine - you probably have a set screw holding the collet on where I have the old pressed on collet. When I had to replace my spindle motor, under warranty at just under a year old, I was being quoted $300 but then I got it free. I know some people on here have mentioned that they bought parts off machines that had been returned or broken, usually to speed delivery but I'd think you might be able to score a motor cheaper also. Just guessing.